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title: Adopting AI Without Compromise | ASE Tech Solve Ep 1
description: Riley Schaerer, Kristof Kazmer and Microsoft specialist Phil Meyer on what safe AI adoption takes when you carry SOCI or APRA obligations.
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# Adopting AI without compromise

Every business in the country is being told to move faster on AI. The real question is how you adopt it safely and securely without disrupting the business. We brought together the experts to work through what that takes, especially when you carry SOCI or APRA obligations.

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## Watch it in four parts

Four questions, answered one at a time. Start with whichever one is yours.

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01

What adopting AI without compromise actually means

What we are seeing walk in the door every week, and what has to be true before a business says yes to AI.

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02

Why blocking the tools does not make you compliant

Shadow AI, the assumption that data inside Microsoft 365 is protected by default, and what an auditor expects you to produce if you are captured by the SOCI Act or supervised by APRA.

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03

Model choice, and your first 30 days

Why choosing Microsoft does not commit you to one model, what has to stay true so you can move between them, and the first three things to do if you are starting near zero.

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04

How you would know six months later whether it worked

What a good outcome looks like, what failure looks like before it becomes an incident, and where to take this next.

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Who's in this episode

## Meet the experts

![Kristof Kazmer](https://land.ase.tech/hs-fs/hubfs/Kristof%20Kazmer.png?width=160&height=160&name=Kristof%20Kazmer.png)

Kristof Kazmer

Head of Solution Sales, ASE Tech

Hosts the episode. Kristof works across the SOCI Act, CPS 230 and 234, the Essential Eight and ISO 27001 with ASE Tech's regulated customers every week.

![Philip Meyer](https://land.ase.tech/hs-fs/hubfs/Phil%20Meyer.png?width=160&height=160&name=Phil%20Meyer.png)

Philip Meyer

Microsoft Specialist, Modern Work and Security

Guest. Philip works with Australian organisations on how they adopt AI and what the Microsoft platform can enforce around it, and he sees the adoption patterns across a large customer base.

![Riley Schaerer](https://land.ase.tech/hs-fs/hubfs/Riley%20Schaerer.png?width=160&height=160&name=Riley%20Schaerer.png)

Riley Schaerer

Principal Consultant, ASE Tech

Guest. Riley works inside customer environments across security, Microsoft 365 and AI adoption, and he shaped the Secure AI Assessment with SoftwareOne.

## What to take from this episode

In their words.

“Within two weeks, a student had asked, give me the salaries of all the teaching staff. And they got it.”

Philip Meyer  
Microsoft Specialist, Modern Work and Security

“If you cannot produce evidence, actual evidence, to an auditor, then you're not going to be compliant in that assessment.”

Riley Schaerer  
Principal Consultant, ASE Tech

“I don't know that success is saying we've deployed AI. It's about what business value we've got.”

Philip Meyer  
Microsoft Specialist, Modern Work and Security

About ASE Tech

## No compromises. Just outcomes.

For more than 20 years, ASE Tech has helped Australia's most critical industries cut waste, reduce risk and keep systems performing 24x7. We bring the same engineer-led approach to your business, with technology chosen on merit and built to hold up.

We connect and secure more than 20 per cent of Australia's renewable energy assets. We are ISO 27001 certified, and a SOCI-regulated entity with CIRMP obligations of our own.

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Rachael King  
Account Manager

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